Mr. John Church:

Specifically Covid, but these were issues before Covid as well. During the Covid period, which is the period under review today, the fear was around getting the virus and in regard to parents dying. Every day, as we all know, there were reports of numbers and deaths. This was being recounted to us. This information was all over social media and traditional media. That played havoc with children's emotions. It was the fear of getting the disease, that their loved ones would get it, including their grandmothers, and the isolation from their grandparents etc.