Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Tuesday, 5 October 2021

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills

Leaving Certificate Reform: Discussion

Ms Clare Austick:

I thank the Senator. The unfortunate reality is that many people decide to drop out and do not avail of the supports they need early on in first year or throughout college. It comes down to preparedness, including how the leaving certificate is taught, while third level education is on an individual basis and involves independent learning. Many students in college are doing their second, third or fourth choice because they did not get their first one as a result of CAO points. It comes down to how the points system is interlinked with it all but we can support them by emphasising the different pathways available to students. Some students will benefit from taking a year out or doing a PLC or some other work before going to college. Then, if someone is struggling during their course, we can ensure they avail of the supports available to them through investment in the support services that are there and awareness of supporting students' progression. Access to education is not just about entry into third level education but progressing throughout and the opportunities available on the other side after graduating.

It comes down to the points system, students not being fully prepared for what is expected of them in terms of independent learning and recognising that many students might drop out because it is not the choice they wanted and they did not get their first option. Many students then go into undenominated arts or science because they did not get their chosen course. We should keep that in mind.