Mr. Paul McDonald:

Again, I am not aware whether the IFFPG could have filled that gap. I do not know why individual farmers and so on would have gone to the private contractors as opposed to the IFFPG. I am not aware of what the pricing structure is but to use the Senator's own expression, we are where we are. It seems, again, that there is 10,000 tonnes to 12,000 tonnes of this material. The onus for dealing with that material rests primarily with those contractors. It rests primarily with them to deal with it. As I understand it, they all have waste permits and have certain obligations under that to deal with this material. The onus for dealing with this material rests primarily on those contractors. We can look-----