Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Wednesday, 23 June 2021

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach

General Banking Matters: Permanent TSB

Mr. Eamonn Crowley:

I thank the Chairman and the committee members for the invitation today. I am joined by my colleagues Patrick Farrell, our retail banking director, and Kevin Hewston, interim chief operations officer. This is my first appearance before the committee since being appointed chief executive of the bank in June of last year.

Firstly, I assure the committee that I will always listen to the committee members and give them whatever assistance I can, and that I want Permanent TSB to bring vigorous competition, better service, better products and better value to Irish customers and small businesses in communities across Ireland. I want to build a sustainable bank for the future and at the centre of any sustainable business is the responsibility it has to its customers.

As soon as I took up my position I set out a new purpose for Permanent TSB. This is centred on building trust with our customers and connecting with the bank’s community heritage, which has evolved over the past 200 years from our unique roots in communities throughout Ireland as the former Irish Permanent Building Society and the former First Trustee Savings Banks. I set out this purpose because I want Permanent TSB to be known for having a strong sense of social purpose and one that plays a broader role in Irish society. I strongly believe that maximising the return for customers leads to maximising the return for shareholders over the long term. At the heart of growing a truly sustainable business is the fair treatment of and good returns for customers, acknowledging the requirement for any bank to make a return on capital so as to be financially sustainable.

While we still have more work to do to further build trust with customers, and I acknowledge there are legacy issues from the past, we are taking steps in the right direction and over the last year we have put our purpose into action with a number of measures. We have kept all 76 of our branches open throughout the pandemic and committed to maintaining our existing branch network. In addition to the €30 million investment over the last five years, we have committed to investing a further €5 million over the coming year in refurbishing and maintaining branches to make sure they remain an attractive place for our customers to do business. We made significant cuts to our mortgage interest rates, both for new and existing customers, with greater fairness in our mortgage pricing and a shift towards offering the same rates to both new and existing customers. We have supported our customers who were affected by the pandemic with more than 13,000 payment breaks to give these customers valuable breathing space at a time of significant upheaval. We continue to work closely with some 1,000 customers who require ongoing support. We supported the provision of affordable and social housing with a partnership between the bank and the Ó Cualann Cohousing Alliance, in which the bank provides financial and operational support to the Ó Cualann group. We achieved the Business Working Responsibly Mark, which is the leading standard for corporate social responsibility and sustainability certification in Ireland. We have also announced plans to hire more than 180 new staff with a particular focus on IT skills, to complement a €150 million investment in our IT systems and digital banking capabilities. We have announced a major initiative to grow our presence in the SME lending market, which included teaming up with the State’s Strategic Banking Corporation of Ireland, to provide more than €50 million in new low-cost lending to small businesses.

Perhaps the single biggest example of our commitment to making things better for customers, our communities and the wider economy is our announcement in February that we are in discussions with the NatWest Group to acquire certain elements of Ulster Bank’s retail and SME banking business. This shows our ambition to become Ireland’s best personal and small business bank, a bank with deep roots in Irish communities that can bring even greater competition to customers at a time when customers need competition more than ever. If we are successful in agreeing commercial terms, Permanent TSB will be a bank with more customers, a larger footprint, greater reach and a greater ability to bring new and better products and services to retail and SME customers.

Before I conclude my opening remarks I must offer the committee an apology with regard to the level of detail I can go into at this stage about our discussions with the NatWest Group. I hope members will appreciate that both sides have agreed to conduct these negotiations in the strictest of confidentiality and I must also respect our disclosure obligations as a company that is quoted on the Dublin and London stock exchanges. I can say that I have been greatly encouraged at how constructively both sides are approaching these discussions. It is my aim that we will reach an agreement that will benefit customers and create value for the State through its shareholding in the bank.

I reaffirm our commitment to continuing to support customers as we exit the Covid-19 pandemic and in demonstrating our purpose of building trust with customers. I thank the committee.