Mr. Seán McCabe:

I will jump in quickly on this. I take all the Deputy's points, which are all very well made. They are all interrelated, which is surprising, and it all ties in with his final question. I have an answer to that but I will start by running through a couple of responses.

On transport, it does not make sense to privatise or offer private services on the more profitable routes in the country and then not have the revenues to run routes where they are not profitable. The idea of a State-led intervention in all this would be that we would take the profits from where we make the money - the busier areas - and we would open radically different public transport in rural areas. That is the point.