Dr. Laura Bambrick:

I am going to share my time with my colleague, Mr. Berney. To clarify, Congress acknowledges that the income and wage supports are temporary and are intended to be a temporary measure. We are not looking for them to be made permanent. However, we want them to remain in place until the economy fully recovers. It is not possible to take a sectoral approach to the PUP. The Department of Social Protection does not collect information in that way and many people have jobs that are indirectly related to business coming from different sectors. There are all types of problems. That was really at the root of continuing with the PUP as it stands until September, which was to give us that opportunity to reopen and see where we are before we taper. When we say we are not standing over it, we mean that tapering will start if parts of the economy are still not fully reopened but that should be done in tandem with the myriad supports that are there for businesses as well. We cannot remove it from workers and, at the same time, say it is needed for business. We cannot say "There is a job there for everyone who wants it” to the 270,000 people who are still on the PUP, but at the same time-----