Mr. Seamus McCarthy:

I want to point out to Deputy Murphy that there are two documents from the Department of Justice. The letter seems to be dealing with the cases that are handled by the Chief State Solicitor's office and the annexe, which is headed NIMS - the National Incidence Management System - is the information in relation to cases handled by the State Claims Agency. In relation to that, there are damages amounts, payments in relation to lack of in-cell sanitation and in relation to tuberculosis mass action. Those are the State Claims Agency ones, whereas the ones in the letter itself are the ones that are handled by the Department.

There is the difficulty with any of this when one looks at it on a year-by-year basis. One can have legal fees being paid in one year that are associated with compensation paid in another year. There can be a difficulty in getting a clear picture of what is the relationship between the compensation paid and the legal expenses incurred. I do not know if that is helpful to the Deputy.