Dr. Robert Sweeney:

I have those figures in front of me here somewhere. If we look at the figures for HAP, for example, in the second quarter of 2019 there were 48,261 tenancies in the HAP scheme. This has increased greatly since the scheme's inception. HAP was only introduced, on a phased basis, in 2014, when there were 6,200 tenancies. However, the figures have grown significantly in each subsequent year, and almost 50,000 households were availing of HAP in 2019. I do not have the figures in front of me regarding how many people are availing of RAS but we would have to think that it is a smaller number. I say that because the pie chart I displayed earlier and which is also in my submission demonstrated that HAP is now the main support. If we combine RAS and rent supplement together, the total comes to approximately the same as what is now spent on HAP.