Marc Ó Cathasaigh (Waterford, Green Party)
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I welcome all members of the joint committee to the meeting and remind them that for a duly constituted meeting to proceed, members are required to join the meeting remotely from within the defined precincts of Leinster House only. We have received apologies from Deputies Naughten and Ó Cuív and from Senators Gavan and Garvey. I ask members and witnesses to turn off their mobile phones, please, as they interfere with the recording equipment. As members are participating remotely from their offices, I ask that they click the raised hand icon at any point if they wish to contribute during the proceedings of the meeting and to remain on mute until such time as they wish to speak.

We will suspend the meeting for two minutes as we are having a technical issue.