Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Thursday, 22 October 2020

Public Accounts Committee

2019 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 11 - Office of Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform
Vote 12 – Superannuation and Retired Allowances
Chapter 3 - Vote Accounting and Budget Management
Chapter 4 - Accounting for Capital Assets
Chapter 5 - Accounting for Allied Services

11:30 am

Mr. Robert Watt:

Progress is being made. If a Department says its assets are worth €100 million, carries out a review and says they are now worth €150 million, the key is that we move to an accounting system that provides that Department with clear incentives to make decisions about the use of those assets. If we implement all of these recommendations, which we will, it will improve things but it does not get us to the end position where we need to make decisions. At the moment, we make a decision to spend more and increase the capital spending of a Department. Over time, we need to consider the impact of that spending on the net worth of the balance sheet of the State. We focus on the general government balance, the gross debt or the cash spend of the Exchequer. Over time, the philosophy is that we must get to a discussion about the net value to the State. This is why we have embarked on this change in how we account for public money, which is-----