Mr. Bernard Gloster:

It is external to my view, but it is progressing. I refer to care processes, care issues and issues associated with access and so on.

There are probably three questions in there. The majority of children who are in the care system have processes beyond the individual worker who sees them in that case. Many of them are before the Children's Court or the family courts, they are under the oversight of a judge and they are subject to the in camerarule, about which a lot of people have a lot of views and a lot of complaints. That is the law and that is the provision that is there.

The ultimate appeal process is in the context of the courts. The courts spend a significant amount of time processing any application Tusla makes for a full care order. We go through an interim care order because the court rightly raises a bar for Tusla to reach in evidence. It is in that space that access is often determined.

I am interested in the observation about reunification planning. That is something we may be able to come back to address with the Deputy in more detail-----