Dr. David Duffy:

I think I have taken note of all of the Deputy's questions. As I stated, neither I nor Mr. Spain was there at the time. Anything in my response on this issue, therefore, is based on my understanding of what happened. I do not accept that it was an attempt to bypass democracy. I was involved in producing some of the estimates of new household formation in my previous position. Back in 2016, all of the estimates suggested that new household formation was running at 25,000 new households per year. Housing completions were around 5,000 to 8,000 units at the time, depending on the year examined. There was a real recognition, therefore, that housing supply had to increase and that was the motivation for PII to enter into the system to provide policy recommendations to increase supply.

Regarding the research itself, I examined it in respect of specific quotes and comments. I cannot remember the specific quotes, but I suppose-----