Mr. Tim Gaston:

I did not say I put credit on the Leap card. I just stated I gave them the cards. Ours is no different from any other similar scheme. Let us compare the situation in Dublin with that in London where there are 50 million Oyster cards. The situation is similar in Hong Kong. People buy them, lose them down the back of the sofa and then go and buy another one. We ran a campaign to encourage people to come and obtain a refund on their old Leap cards, but there was little take-up.