Mr. David Flannery:

There are various strata of income levels. There is some potential in respect of the 372,000 people who are in receipt of the fuel allowance.

This is a subsidy of some €234 million in 2019. Within that there probably exists at least the potential or incentive for lower bills and healthier homes to redirect or look at that payment to see how it can be used to retrofit some of these homes. For example, we retrofitted three homes through the healthy home scheme in Tipperary. Those three homes were paying, collectively, €7,100 in fuel costs through a combination of oil and electric bills. The cost of retrofitting each of those homes was €45,000, but we worked it out to be cost neutral because of the amount of fuel that was used. It paid for itself. There are 370,000 people in this situation where there is an obvious incentive to intervene in improving the home at a fairly neutral or low cost.