Mr. Stephen Mulvany:

Some of the conversion of agency is to try to close the financial gap and live within the budget. It is not necessarily the two agency individuals but, for example, if there are 100 hours of agency we say we will recruit two or two and a half people, preferably permanent, on direct payroll to provide those 100 hours. That will make some saving. The first call on the saving is to live within the overall pay budget. That is one of the reasons we do it. The capacity of the health service to spend money is not in question. We are sitting at the budgetary oversight committee to discuss how we can close the gap.