Ms Niamh Carty:

I was intrigued by Deputy Crowe's question about the ideal model because I have been in the business for 25 years and I am not sure there is such a thing. What I have learned is that we need to work at different levels. There are many lessons that we can learn from our experiences of working on other issues. I am thinking particularly of our work on gender justice, for example. There is a real need for service provision at local level for people such as Peter who I mentioned in my presentation. We can help to facilitate those services to be made available to the people who need them. That, in itself, is not enough and it is not sustainable. Working with local civil society in those countries where we work, it is a matter of capacitating them to deliver the services themselves. It is also a matter of being able to advocate at national level for the changes that are needed from a legislative point of view and, critically, for budgeting decisions to be made that will support decision-making that is beneficial to people with disabilities. Probably the most important ingredient in all of that is the inclusion of people with disabilities in those conversations. It is not about any of us sitting here or in programme countries making decisions on their behalf. We need to talk to people with disabilities, hear the reality of their lives and their stories and respond accordingly. If there is anything touching on an ideal model, that might be one of the ingredients.