Mr. Tom Parlon:

The Government has a policy too and they seem to be at loggerheads. The Minister's recommendations are still not being taken on board. We certainly need to increase the height. Lest the notion go out that apprenticeships in construction are at a low ebb, electricians and plumbers are flying high. This includes the very apprenticeship to which Deputy Boyd Barrett referred to in respect of his son. There are thousands of people in each trade mainly because we have large contractor firms on the mechanical and electrical side which are working for the likes of Google and Facebook and building data centres, not just in Dublin and around the country but across Europe. That is a very good model. It is in respect of the wet trades, which are necessary currently for house-building, where the structure of the industry does not encourage employers to some extent. We have a weakness on the employer side and a mega-weakness around creating an awareness among people who might otherwise choose an apprenticeship in these trades.