Ms Margaret Martin:

That is a catalyst for a move to talk about things more. That shame threshold has been broken a bit and that will help. The basic thing is that we need good data. We know the data the gardaí were able to provide were not robust enough. The Central Statistics Office has been reluctant to even carry some of those figures. We know that the levels of domestic violence are not being accurately recorded anywhere in the system. The first thing to do is to measure the extent of it.