Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Wednesday, 13 March 2019

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs

Governance and Child Safeguarding Issues in Scouting Ireland: Tusla and Scouting Ireland

10:00 am

Mr. Ian Elliott:

Yes. My difficulty, which I believe is shared by many of my colleagues, is in trying to understand what happened. When I say "I am shocked," I mean it. I do not understand what has happened. I will mention something important. If one is going to criticise the practice of an individual in safeguarding, one needs to have solid evidence and to have examined either the case record or talked to the people involved in the practice so that one has all of the information or can provide supervision, but none of that happened in this case. All of the criticism relating to practice appears to be based on the content of the referral forms that were sent to the statutory agencies. No case record has been examined and no member of staff has been interviewed. I certainly have not been spoken to.