Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Wednesday, 13 March 2019

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs

Governance and Child Safeguarding Issues in Scouting Ireland: Tusla and Scouting Ireland

Photo of Alan FarrellAlan Farrell (Dublin Fingal, Fine Gael)
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I have to go back to my initial comment on the publication of the letter from Tusla and the fact it contains very specific information. I queried - cautioned perhaps is a better description - the terminology used. Unfortunately, I must refer to the fact there is an allegation using specific terminology with regard to conduct. I do not want the witnesses to answer. I simply make the observation that it may be the case there is a fundamental misunderstanding of terminology between the two organisations. While Mr. Tennant has said repeatedly the organisations are not in conflict, which I accept, I would have thought a basic understanding of terminology between two organisations would be important. Dare I say that perhaps it should go into the six point plan that has been put forward?

Earlier, I mentioned to Tusla the principal documents on the child safeguarding statement and the practices being in position at corporate, board and voluntary organisational level but when it comes to individual dens the inference is that perhaps there was a disparity between one and the other. Clearly this is something the new board will have to address. I want to afford the witnesses the opportunity to address it because it is there in black and white.