Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Wednesday, 13 March 2019

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Children and Youth Affairs

Governance and Child Safeguarding Issues in Scouting Ireland: Tusla and Scouting Ireland

Mr. Pat Smyth:

I agree that is a fair question. Regarding the first case, it is important to say that. Regarding issues concerning child protection, Children First and working with organisations, it is always Tusla's intention to work directly with those organisations. The letter sent to Scouting Ireland was addressed to it. Our expectation was that Scouting Ireland would respond directly to Tusla on the matter. In the first case, it is not, and was not, our intention for the letter to make its way into the public domain because we would have expected it would have been worked through, and that the issues in it would have been worked through in the normal course of business. That underlies part of the answer to the second question. In this case, the detail in the letter was especially for the benefit of Scouting Ireland. It was aware of these cases. The matters raised in those cases were about trying to point to the seriousness of the concerns of the people who wrote the letter. That is the reason for the detail. It pointed directly to those cases.