Professor Simon More:

It is a huge ask. If we put everything in place that I am suggesting, we would get close. The problem is that the tail will always be long. I have corresponded with many people prior to this meeting to try to understand different perspectives. My Australian colleague felt it was important to say how draconian Australia got. It concerned the tail as opposed to the point Ireland is at now. We are not at the tail, but we are getting close. For example, if Deputy Kenny's farm has a breakdown close to the tail, we will not muck around with tests. We know he has TB on his farm. We depopulate immediately. We could lock his farm up for ten years, but the risk is there until every single animal that was present at the breakdown is dead. The programme got more draconian the closer we got to the tail. I am not saying that Ireland is there yet, but that is what we would need to do to reach a 2030 deadline. We would be close rather than at it.