Mr. Pat Smyth:

Yes. The challenge is to see if there is a mechanism other than agency staff to provide some kind of facility such as part-time or other workers. That is difficult within public sector employment as rights accrue to somebody after a period, even on temporary contracts. The need for agency staff will always be there, but it is about trying to strike a balance between the additional cost and the longer-term costs of replacements for long-term staff. I agree with the Chairman's statement that there will always be that extra spend.