Alan Farrell (Dublin Fingal, Fine Gael)
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The pay grades and public sector pay agreements have been mentioned, as have allowances. If a person is burning out due to being overworked, are the pay grades sufficient to retain these individuals? This is not a criticism of the organisation, the State or the individual, it is a reflection of reality. As Deputy Neville has said, these people do extraordinary work, as I know from my personal experience and from my role as Chairman of this committee. Does there come a point when burnout approaches because they just feel undervalued to the point where they feel they cannot do this any more? They are working until seven or eight o'clock at night every night, it is interfering with their personal lives, they cannot put the work down but are not being paid enough to care that much. There is a point where somebody has to say they are done and move on.