Mr. Pat Smyth:

I understand. It is obvious to everybody that it is in that space. To reassure the committee, there is a huge amount of work going on to produce additional productivity and ease of work through developments around that system and through developing other ICT portals, systems and applications. Last year, as part of the NCCIS development, we issued some 1,800 mobile devices, for example, laptops and much-improved phones, to social workers. That was a huge investment to facilitate NCCIS and to give mobility to social workers to allow them to operate better. Much of this had previously been done on paper.