Lord Deben:

We cannot do what we need to do without carbon capture and storage. There is a silly argument about whether it should be carbon capture and usage or carbon capture and storage. We do not have the uses we would need to make it really worthwhile. We have to be able to store carbon because there is a great gap otherwise which we cannot fill in all our targets which is why we are pleased that the Government has finally understood that this has to be done and the only alternatives are hugely more expensive and therefore we have got to do this. There is no reason the United Kingdom could not be a leader because we have the advantages of holes down which to put it. This is a post-fossil fuel situation and the places where we cannot do it are very difficult. For example, we have been trying to work with the Welsh Government because its problem is that its biggest emitters are all in that south corner of Wales where there is not a natural place to store the carbon, so there is an issue there. Carbon capture and storage is crucial.