Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Wednesday, 12 December 2018

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action

Third Report of the Citizens' Assembly: Discussion (Resumed)

12:30 pm

Ms Bridget Murphy:

The reality is that unless we find another planet or grow this one bigger, we are stuck.

The second consideration is what we are feeding people. Speaking from a woman's point of view, feeding countries flavoured and condensed milk and telling women to switch from breastfeeding to powdered milk and infant formula does make us emotional.

We are talking about the fact that we are feeding the world. We recently started back sending live exports to Libya. Two women bravely stood up in Dunnes Stores years ago and refused to sell oranges that came from South Africa because they had principles. We are seeing a Bill that is going through to prevent the import of products from the occupied West Bank. Personally, I find it really offensive that we are selling beef to a country that is selling human beings as slaves - that is happening in Libya. I have a problem with how we sell our beef and to where we sell it, especially as we have 75,000 children dying of starvation in Yemen at the moment, but we are not sending any food to them. That is from a woman's point of view. I am sorry if that sounds emotional but I want to challenge the claim that we are feeding the world.

I will go back to answer Deputy Smith's question. She asked whether the Coillte policy was realistic and sustainable. We would like to see Coillte with a new remit. In 1988 when Coillte was set up the remit was to make as much money as possible from the forest estate in any way the company found profitable. We would prefer to see the company being less about making money - there has not been a great deal of money made from the forest estate - and more about providing a national sequestration service and a major biodiversity service. As the Sitka spruce forests come up to felling and get felled I would rather see them replaced with natural forest that is predominately native and broad-leaf. We want to have a look at replacing the Sitka spruce. We want to look at restoring the biodiversity and clean water from it.

Another suggestion is that the Coillte board needs to be reviewed. The board is sitting with a good deal of experience from Glanbia, Kerrygold and so on, but there are no environmental people on the board and no one with change management skills. With all due respect, we are in for something of a bumpy ride and we are going to need as many skills as possible to get through it. One such skill is some experience in change management. We need to get that expertise on the board of Coillte. As a matter of fact, we need it on many boards.