Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Thursday, 29 November 2018

Public Accounts Committee

2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 37 - Social Protection
Chapter 11 - Regularity of Social Welfare Payments
Chapter 12 - JobPath Employment Activation Service
Chapter 13 - Actuarial Review of Social Insurance Fund
Chapter 14 - Overpayments of Age-Related Jobseeker's Allowance
Chapter 20 - PRSI Contributions by the Self-Employed
2017 Social Insurance Fund

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Photo of David CullinaneDavid Cullinane (Waterford, Sinn Fein)
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Yet some of Ms Hurley's superiors, when they appeared at committees, spoke about it more as short term to medium term. I say that because in terms of the Rebuilding Ireland, they argue that after 2021 there will be a strategy to house some of the people who are in housing assist programmes and RAS into traditionally social housing. I am trying to figure out what the policy and targets are. It is very important for us to measure whether or not strategies are working and that there are benchmarks and targets. Perhaps I am wrong about their interpretation and perhaps my colleague is wrong. I do not know but I doubt it very much. If Ms Hurley is saying from her perspective it is long term, is she then saying the plan up to 2021 is to have almost double the number of people in HAP accommodation, from 37,000 in 2017 and whatever it is now - it is probably over 40,000 - and up to 83,000 by the end of 2021, which is double? I imagine it would also double the cost. We could be talking about €400 million just for HAP alone. That is them sorted. From the Department's perspective, their long-term housing needs are being met through HAP. Is that what Ms Hurley is saying?