Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Thursday, 25 October 2018

Public Accounts Committee

2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 10 - Funding and Oversight of Approved Housing Bodies
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
2017 Financial Statements - Housing Agency

9:00 am

Mr. John McCarthy:

In some respects, I might take one step back. We started out in the middle of 2016 with Rebuilding Ireland. We set very clear targets and the process of trying to measure, report on and be held accountable for delivery against these targets was something with which we grappled very early on. In fact, when we started out initially, we would probably have had more scheme by scheme-type specific reporting of the kind to which the Comptroller and Auditor General referred. We would have said so many homes had been delivered using the capital advance leasing facility and so many under the capital assistance scheme, but the view we were getting back was that they were terms we understood but that people generally did not. We moved from it to a programme of reporting. We publish data every quarter, fundamentally built around the build, acquisition and lease scheme, the rental accommodation scheme, RAS, and the HAP scheme. In terms of the recommendation from the Comptroller and Auditor General, the form of reporting we have and what he is recommending are not incompatible because we can tell behind these broad categories what the individual schemes are. The reason we have the type of reporting we have is the suggestion we were getting was that it was more simple and straightforward for people to understand. We said in response to the Comptroller and Auditor General's report that we had the underlying scheme by scheme data.