Catherine Murphy (Kildare North, Social Democrats)
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I think we all have a memory of those meetings because they were pretty exceptional. It seems to me, however, that there are two streams of issues for us. One is certainly value for money, but the other is the process. It seems to me that we were presuming that there were two separate processes, but there is a question mark as to whether that was the case. It is perfectly valid for the State to have first call on a-----