Mr. John McCarthy:

It may be worth stating that the statistics to which the Chairman referred probably reflect one of the points I made in my opening statement. As Mr. Armstrong said, we set ambitious performance standards for new buildings, residential and non-residential, as well as significant requirements for major renovations. The statistics the Chairman referenced may be a reflection of a broad housing stock, much of which is obviously of a particular vintage. While we set standards for what needs to be achieved in renovations, we do not require those renovations to be carried out. That is territory that the committee has probably covered with the Department of Communications, Climate Action and Environment in terms of the incentives and supports that will be made available in order to encourage people to undertake renovations of the housing stock. Such people would then have to comply with the performance standards.