Dr. Sara Burke:

We discussed this previously in the committee. Dr. Sarah Barry, our colleague, spoke about the spinning wheels. We have address both issues. We have to bring down waiting times, which are unacceptable and inhumane, but we also have to reform the system to ensure we are addressing the people waiting a long time. We must start having diagnostics in the community, including providing same day access to general practitioners for tests, quicker elective care and many more services outside hospital. Once we get that process moving, it can stop the build-up that is happening now. It is not an either-or situation. We have to do both.