Mr. Denis O'Sullivan:

I do not necessarily agree with that point. If we look at the Irish energy sector, what natural gas, particularly in power generation, has done in recent years is act as a backup for renewables. The renewables have come on the system and gas has been set aside. In recent weeks, in particular, when renewables have not been generating to any great extent, gas has come back in. Gas is not pushing out renewables. The opposite is the case because renewables are pushing out gas. As I stated, we do not object to this. We are trying to support it in terms of finding ways of decarbonising the gas network so it can complement the renewable energy coming from wind and solar. The fact of the matter is that solar and wind are intermittent and, at present, we have to have gas to back them up. There may very well be good solutions at some point in future, but they are not available today, nor will they be available in ten years' time.