Shane Cassells (Meath West, Fianna Fail)
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He was tweeting about the people in this room and seemed to be more concerned about throwing that Scud than being involved in a process of engagement that could help. I would like to hear Vicky's reading of that situation and those comments and her thoughts on whether a protect-and-deny culture is still endemic. Is that fuelling her request for a complete clear-out to allow for an honest appraisal of the situation, rather than protecting an entity? God knows what they are protecting.

I am interested in the question Cian posed about the magnitude of the errors. The discussion has been focused on the lack of communication, but you made an interesting point in terms of focusing on the magnitude of errors and why there is a closed-mind attitude to the latter. How far do you think that closed-mind attitude permeates the system? When the Taoiseach was addressed on this matter during Leaders' Questions on 1 May, he said it is just the norm that two pairs or four pairs of eyes miss something like this. However, as Vicky said, it was not a small amount of cancer but, rather, a slide full of it. I would like to hear the witnesses' views on that substantive issue.