Mr. Martin Fraser:

I can only say what happened. I am afraid I cannot speak for the views of Ministers or Senators or what anyone might be doing. All I can tell the Deputy is what the SCU and the Civil Service did. The editors, along with all the evidence which we published, said that nobody caused this to happen in the Civil Service. That is all I can say to the Deputy. If the Deputy does not believe that he is not believing the editors. I have to take it at face value.