Chairman:

That is a very good, respectful answer. Perhaps "diplomatic" is the word I am looking for.

I thank our witnesses. It has been an extraordinary meeting with Mr. Walsh and Ms Magaharan. It was probably a little bit easier for Dr. Murtagh and Ms McCormack. Mr. Walsh and Ms Magaharan are so brave. I am grateful they have come here today. Our purpose is not to lash out at the HSE, but to ask for clarity about what it is like. We have seen today what it is like. We can only fix it if we can see what the problem is. I thank the witnesses most sincerely for coming here today.