Mr. Pat Collins:

Yes, but the Chairman must realise that Coillte has hired KPMG to carry out an audit. They did not consult the partners on this. How can Coillte employ KPMG to carry out an audit when Coillte has not consulted its partners? The partners have to be involved in the negotiations and in the day-to-day decision making in the partnerships. This has not happened. I agree that an independent body has to be set up and there has to be total transparency in these contracts. We must sit down and work out how this can be achieved.