Michael Healy-Rae (Kerry, Independent)
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To be perfectly fair, the man that started all of this was Mr. Cardiff. He was talking about the protection of the schemes from a financial point of view and delivering results on the ground. He said it was important that they provided value for money, and that it means something to the recipient of the money at the end of the line. He also said it was important that the recipient would not have to spend so much money that the payment would not actually be worth their while. That is the way I understood it. It is good to have this level of engagement about all aspects of the issue.