David Cullinane (Waterford, Sinn Fein)
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I am posing the questions. The Comptroller and Auditor General can have whatever processes he likes, I am posing the questions. Lumping in fraud and error as one, even in terms of controls, is not the appropriate way to deal with it. One can still deal with them separately.

The Secretary General can give us separate figures on fraud, error and overpayments. Then we can see what the scale of the problem is. In his opening statement, Mr. McKeon stated the net level of fraud and error over 13 schemes is an average of 2%. What are the separate net level figures over the five-year period for fraud and error? If Mr. McKeon does not have the figures, Ms Stack might have them.