Ms Liz McDermott:

-----it is a medical assessment. I am not in that position so I cannot say. My problem is that once one starts legislating for particular categories of risk and assessment, one just gets into very grey areas. In the grey areas, one can reach a situation which we have in the UK where the legislation still calls for there to be a substantial risk to the life or health of the mother but that is not what happens in practice because nobody can really quantify that. If a woman comes in and says, "my health is at risk", "my life is at risk", or "my mental health is at risk", no doctor will say, "well, I am not sure that it is."