Ms Liz McDermott:

I do not think we got counselling of any sort at the time. That was 2002. I would not describe it as counselling in the sense that there was nobody who stepped in and heard our side of things. On the day it happened I remember we asked if there was anyone we could talk to and the doctors and the staff looked around generally and eventually somebody went and got a chaplain because there just was not anybody. The doctor just said there would not be a problem going and he said he was obliged to give me certain information. He was performing that. It was not directive or non-directive. He was just complying with his legal obligations. When the Deputy talks about fatal foetal abnormalities, again that is a term that does not have a medical meaning and I think it is very important. It keeps being trotted out but it is medically meaningless.