Ms Janice Donlon:

In terms of a client who may come with additional needs in terms of addiction, the crisis pregnancy counselling services are open to these women but the Senator is right. They often do not see themselves going to those kind of services. They may be fearful and may not feel that it is for them. They may feel there is another agenda there, whatever that might be. What we have done in the HSE is to provide training and support to services that are already engaged with these women, such as addiction services, so we would fund NUI Maynooth to provide master classes on particular topics around crisis pregnancy. These classes are open to anybody who works in the HSE or any of the funded services. More recently, people from a vast array of services have been attending those master classes so addiction counsellors, public health nurses and people from other areas of the HSE would attend them. It is about providing them with the knowledge and information to be able to go back and support their clients. Equally, a counsellor will see a client with any additional needs but may not always be able to support her fully and may then need to refer her back for additional support.

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