Mr. Tony O'Brien:

I think we look at this in two parts. First, is there evidence that there was a disproportionate application of cuts to the service provider? There is not that evidence. If, however, we wanted to have an analysis of the motivations and actions of a variety of individuals and conversations they might have had, which I know form part of the concerns of the service provider, it would require a degree of compellability that I cannot give to myself or Deloitte but which rests with the commission of inquiry. Given that we are talking about staff who did or did not take actions over quite a long period of time, some of whom are not currently employed-----