Ms Justice Mary Laffoy:

We suggested to them that it came within "no restriction" but they were still adamant that they wanted that. I think that was the motivation, but I may be wrong. That is just my reading of the scenario.

Deputy O'Connell raised in particular the position of BPAS and Guttmacher and I think I should deal with it. Gilda Sedgh from the Guttmacher Institute spoke to us. She had been the author of an article which had been published in The Lanceta few months previously and which had been promoted by the World Health Organization. In fact, we got her name from the World Health Organization. I am quite happy that she gave us a balanced paper. It is in the book and one can read it. BPAS arose because the members, and they made this very clear, indicated at an early stage that they wanted to hear about the abortion process in the United Kingdom and how Irish women were treated there. Patricia Lohr, the medical director of BPAS, gave us a talk. We asked her. It is in the book. When I was reading the papers again over the weekend, I thought it was a very interesting and helpful submission. Quite frankly, I do not think any criticism of our choice of either Gilda Sedgh or Patricia Lohr is justified. They helped the process and informed the members. I think that is all of the points.