Paul Gavan (Sinn Fein)
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I apologise for interrupting. I fully support the call for a collective agreement. However, collective agreements by their nature are voluntary. The employers will have no interest in having a collective agreement unless the State acts in a robust way to tackle these issues finally. We can talk all we like about a collective agreement, but unless the State is prepared to take responsibility and investigate and prosecute these rogue employers, that collective agreement will never happen.