Mr. Fred McBride:

It is difficult to know exactly. We have tried some very creative approaches. We have been targeting third level institutions both in Ireland and in other jurisdictions such as Northern Ireland and in the UK. We have been trying to incentivise coming into Tusla. Previously we had been heavily dependent upon the national recruitment service, NRS, through a memorandum of understanding with the HSE, and we have now begun to build our own capacity within Tusla where we have our own recruitment section.