Mr. Niall Kelly:

-----until mid-August, or whatever. I spoke to a lot of people. I had a lot of conversations with people. I cannot remember every word I said in the college last year, but I could have said something like, "If it is found that people have been found to have been personally gaining from this, they should be led away in handcuffs." I could have phrased it as something like that. However, as I said, it is hearsay. I cannot recollect every conversation I have had.