Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Wednesday, 31 May 2017

Public Accounts Committee

2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)

9:00 am

Photo of Alan KellyAlan Kelly (Tipperary, Labour)
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I could do with ten hours. I think Mr. Culhane is having a volte-facemoment given what he has just withdrawn. I find that incredible. For me, Mr. Culhane's evidence to this committee is probably the most incredible evidence I have heard as a member of the Committee of Public Accounts, and not in a good way. I have been following the issues in regard to the Garda Training College for a long time. These can be divided into two categories, namely, issues of process not dealt with for decades and financial transactions. There are so many issues in regard to process that we cannot get near the majority of the transactions in the limited time available to us.

It is regrettable that Mr. Cyril Dunne is otherwise engaged and could not be here today. He is a key component in regard to this issue. I would suggest that when Mr. Dunne does come before the committee a number of the witnesses here today should also be in attendance in the context of the evidence we will hear. Following on from what I have heard today and at a previous meeting which I chaired, I believe that a number of people here today and a number of those in attendance at the previous meeting are running for cover based on the evidence that we have been given. There are a number of other people who are doing the State some service in terms of the evidence they are giving. That is without prejudice to our findings. That is my summation of the evidence that has been given to this committee.