Mr. Michael Culhane:

With regard to Mr. Barrett's statement, at various meetings I spoke with him about the college and the matters that were - as it was said in the report - outside the general ledger, which is off the books as it were. I also directed Barry McGee to email Mr. Barrett a copy of the 2008 report. I was being open with him as much as possible on the issues surrounding the college finance.

With regard to the implementation of the recommendations of the McGee report, we encountered difficulties with Deputy Commissioner Rice. I continued to work away on that in the interim. When Mr. Barrett came on with executive responsibility for the college, I gave him a copy of the McGee report in the expectation that he would start to implement those recommendations since he had the line responsibility for the college.