Mr. John Barrett:

I joined the organisation. It is a large complex organisation. The Templemore training facility was part of human resources and people development. I became interested in the budgeting of it and I began to ask questions about financial arrangements in the Garda College, because our actual overtime budgets were running ahead of that allowed for. The questions I asked were not answered to my satisfaction. In my youth I did a BComm and for a while I tried to teach management accounting, so I have a very vague and distant knowledge of it. I have used it throughout my career by virtue of necessity. However, the questions were not satisfactorily answered. I began to learn of the restaurant situation wherein within the Garda organisation what I assumed was a State entity was in fact an entity operating privately and independent of my line ownership in the organisation. From that became the issues concerning the shop, concerning the golf club, concerning the farm-----